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== Project overview message /task board ==
 
== Project overview message /task board ==
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Summaries and conclusions about the progress, from this page and others:
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:* Suitable layer for all our pages still needed which has to fit the wiki outfit
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:* Useful [[http://www.sims2wiki.info/49596978 Wiki link]] Teko can surely add his 2 Euro-Cent
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Material type news:
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:* The Material Types will be listed twice, alphabetical and categorised (maybe seperated on 2 pages).
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:* The categorised list will use hierarchial branching.
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:* To every Material Type a short quickinfo ("x" - submaterial of "y", - for "function z"/ outdated/ stand alone] will be added to the alphabetical list.
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:* Because of the hierarchial branching only group-headlines and quickinfos about outdated material typesd should be required for the categorised list.
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:* "Found in "cMaterialDefinition" in Content." will be added on top of the Material Types - page(s).
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Introduction-Analogy news:
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:* "The Futuristic House" and "A Sim's View of Things" are finished - may check, please.
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Here we can tell to the other members what we have already done, what we are going to do, what needs to be done.
 
Here we can tell to the other members what we have already done, what we are going to do, what needs to be done.
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Cool! So the language support can be solved within the Wiki (hehehe) and we can have a French and German translation - someone else interested? Spanish or whatever else? (@ Numenor: it's just easier to follow the content when you don't have to translate it at once but you immediately understand the words and meaning - and that's why even an Italian translation for SimPe was written ;) :P )
 
Cool! So the language support can be solved within the Wiki (hehehe) and we can have a French and German translation - someone else interested? Spanish or whatever else? (@ Numenor: it's just easier to follow the content when you don't have to translate it at once but you immediately understand the words and meaning - and that's why even an Italian translation for SimPe was written ;) :P )
 
(@ Delphy, too) If I understand the Wiki stuff correctly I would have to add every TXMT-page to my watchlist to check for updates and check "Recent Changes" again and again, right? I mean, it's no prob to me to be this "someone" who updates the de.-part (yes, my German is slightly better than my English) but as this checking again and again is quite complicated may I suggest (I don't know if there is an easy solution for probs like that already available, Wikipedia or else) that "somehow" (maybe an auto-PM or an info included in the Edit-window with a link, whatever to inform the translating guys about changes) the one or more someones per language who agreed in supporting and updating are informed about updates in the main pages so "someones" have to update, too.
 
  
 
Mirror-pages are great and definately easier than updating a whole html-folder - though as soon as the site exists it's just a case of copy&paste. I don't know yet if I'll start it for myself but in this case I can offer the html version which I'll update with copy&paste whenever it's required... maybe I'll upload it to www.simforum.de *muahahahar* (serious: a thread which informs tutorial-searching ones at MTS2 might be helpful for them to find the TXMT stuff in here and of course it would make sense if Numenor is the one who starts this thread (your name is a kind of 'quality-sign' =) )
 
Mirror-pages are great and definately easier than updating a whole html-folder - though as soon as the site exists it's just a case of copy&paste. I don't know yet if I'll start it for myself but in this case I can offer the html version which I'll update with copy&paste whenever it's required... maybe I'll upload it to www.simforum.de *muahahahar* (serious: a thread which informs tutorial-searching ones at MTS2 might be helpful for them to find the TXMT stuff in here and of course it would make sense if Numenor is the one who starts this thread (your name is a kind of 'quality-sign' =) )
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[[User:Khaibit|Khaibit]] 11:31, 15 November 2006 (EST)
 
[[User:Khaibit|Khaibit]] 11:31, 15 November 2006 (EST)
  
::If you watch a page it'll be added to the "My Watchlist" at the top which lets you see easily those pages you are, well, watching... [[User:Delphy|Delphy]] 15:28, 15 November 2006 (EST)
 
  
[[User:Khaibit|Khaibit]]
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As the template news wasn't working can someone delete the page, please? [[http://www.sims2wiki.info/Template:Infobox_News this page]] Thanks! [[User:Khaibit|Khaibit]] 10:29, 29 December 2006 (EST)
  
LOL I guess this was a mixture of strange Wiki feature-struggling and "Khaibit English" (which is only understood correctly by Khaibits and Khefts) so hopefully adding tons of pages to the watchlist - what I already started, that's why I asked this question - will help noticing changes without watching the watchlist for hours because of well, strange Wiki features - an 'easy for creators and translators to use' feature is impossible - or was I impossible to follow again? Will watching the watchlist to try and find an answer ;)
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::Whats wrong with the template? Do you need some help?  What are you trying to do with it? [[User:Delphy|Delphy]] 12:04, 29 December 2006 (EST)
  
[[User:Khaibit|Khaibit]] 16:29, 15 November 2006 (EST)
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I wanted to create it in a way that it displays the summary/ conclusion on that certain page AND additional the "news" (do you know a better fitting word?) should be automatically displayed on this page, too as this is the main-overview. So it should be easier to see for the team where a discussion came to a result or an "important" idea was added. Especially when we have more pages working on it would be easier to keep the overview than having to check every page for "news" and if *you* can add your 2 cents. I tried to create a helper pinboard that connects automatically all the single pinboards of every page in here together. Ehm, understandable? I thought it would be easier than reading the discussions on every page so the resumee diplayed on top of the sites and on this site would be helpful especially when the number of pages increses. Patul and me struggled with explaing and code so can you help, please? :)
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[[User:Khaibit|Khaibit]] 12:35, 29 December 2006 (EST)
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::Use a template that includes another template that has the news on it, would be the easiest way of doing this [[User:Delphy|Delphy]] 13:41, 29 December 2006 (EST)
  
Finally, the slow niol is here!  He just realised where the discussion is!  So, let's laugh at him... (mwah..ha...ha...)
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Now that you say it: sounds logical! :D Cool, so it '''can''' work. Next problem: I tried to understand the meta-wiki template creation stuff and failed (I know there ia a logic inside but it's hidden in confusing programming terms - sounds all greek to me except the part about displaying chess positions which is ''very helpful'' to this template :D) so could you create a working template that listes the entries with :* please? Maybe this will be easier to understand how it works... a dumb feeling [[User:Khaibit|Khaibit]] 14:17, 29 December 2006 (EST)
Is this the right way to add my talk here?  I've alrady started to add more instances for the material types in that thread's discussion/talk...
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::Don't bother with the MediaWiki ones - copy the existing templates we have here. (Check in [[Special:Specialpages]] for the Templates, or something like [[Template:Infobox Person]]. I can help you on MSN or something if need be. :) [[User:Delphy|Delphy]] 14:22, 29 December 2006 (EST)
[[User:Niol|niol]] 12:37, 16 November 2006 (EST)
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Maybe you should think about your definition about "user groups" again (it was a big laugh!) and - as Delphy tried to explain the obvious to me I'll do the same to you "If you watch a page it'll be added to the "My Watchlist" at the top which lets you see easily those pages you are, well, watching..." so add this page to your watchlist and you can... watch it, even for changes :D BTW, I found your's by watching the Recent Changes ;) Not bad for a dummy, isn't it? *proud as punch*
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OK, trying... in doubt I try contacting you about Y! messenger or a PM or else... thanks! =) [[User:Khaibit|Khaibit]] 14:51, 29 December 2006 (EST)
  
I found out that the font size is increaseable (? does this word exist?) via percent values, background color isn't changeable but some possibilities with html/css coding are possible (didn't try the differences of table/spreadsheet support for Wiki and alternatives and else yet) - does this help somehow for an unique layout of the TXMT sites? *the dummy asks* :D (this definition is either a reason to die of laughter or to be really offended, niol - I decided to laugh of course :D)
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I guess we need to start to get this front page started, shan't we?
  
[[User:Khaibit|Khaibit]] 15:36, 16 November 2006 (EST)
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Note points for txmt/MATD
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1. a file type to store mostly graphical parameters and their values, especially those predefined in the material shaders.
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2. Certain parameters and their corresponding values from material shaders are usable for txmt files as well.
  
:embarassed to fly...!:
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:D[[User:Niol|niol]] 16:08, 5 January 2007 (EST)
No need to worry about whether that word have existed before, just create it if not...<i><b>!</b></i>
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Lol, how to create a page? 
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--[[User:Niol|niol]] 23:42, 16 November 2006 (EST)
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[[User:Pixelhate|Pixelhate]]
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== Note about links ==
Ok I've just found the place where it's all happening! and testing it ! why are there names in red and other in blue?
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[[User:Pixelhate|Pixelhate]] 19:57, 20 November 2006 (EST)PixelHate
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::Those in blue have made thier own User pages.  Those in red haven't.  [[User:Delphy|Delphy]] 20:01, 20 November 2006 (EST)
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Hi niol
:::::Hi pixelhate! So I think I have to hurry with my pre-writing... =) (Though it seems like a native speaker would have to translate from Khaibit to English that Numenor and others understands me, too *sigh*)
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:::::Who created the parameters-page? Argh, found - it was Delphy. Looks a lot better than the materials overview :D (not so ehmm?? anymore)  
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Just to note that if you remove the www.sims2wiki.info from your wiki'd links (ie the ones in [[) then they'll show as normal links, and not hyperlinks.  Anything on the Wiki can be linked to just via, for example, [[TXMT]]
  
:::::[[User:Khaibit|Khaibit]] 23:02, 20 November 2006 (EST)
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I'll try that out. :) thanks...

Latest revision as of 18:01, 18 April 2007

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[edit] Project overview message /task board

Summaries and conclusions about the progress, from this page and others:

  • Suitable layer for all our pages still needed which has to fit the wiki outfit
  • Useful [Wiki link] Teko can surely add his 2 Euro-Cent

Material type news:

  • The Material Types will be listed twice, alphabetical and categorised (maybe seperated on 2 pages).
  • The categorised list will use hierarchial branching.
  • To every Material Type a short quickinfo ("x" - submaterial of "y", - for "function z"/ outdated/ stand alone] will be added to the alphabetical list.
  • Because of the hierarchial branching only group-headlines and quickinfos about outdated material typesd should be required for the categorised list.
  • "Found in "cMaterialDefinition" in Content." will be added on top of the Material Types - page(s).

Introduction-Analogy news:

  • "The Futuristic House" and "A Sim's View of Things" are finished - may check, please.


Here we can tell to the other members what we have already done, what we are going to do, what needs to be done.

Remember to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~), and possibly to start your comment with *three* tildes (i.e. Name only). To start a new discussion on a talk page, click the + link at the top of the page. Or you can append your comments to this page clicking on the "Edit" link, on the top-right.

Numenor 20:37, 8 November 2006 (EST)


My first tasks will be:

1) Study the Wiki format :P

2) Find a suitable layout for all our pages

3) Create a basic page structure where the members can put the result of their work.

Numenor 20:42, 8 November 2006 (EST)


Khaibit 14:37, 9 November 2006 (EST)

And my first tasks will be:

1) Stop struggling with the Wiki features *doh!* and try my very best to write understandable English

2) Continuing TXMT-parameter understanding (use/ in game behaviour/ whatever else is required)

3) Re-write the intro analogy (pixelhate's feedback and ideas are welcome =) )

4) Thinking about a way to translate everything (including cross linking) as the Wiki is "English only" area
...if succesful write the analogy again in German ;)
*thinking* Front Page or else for preparing HTML sites? Would be a nice download-feature, too (offline browsing the encyclopedia, no further webspace required) and not too complicated to copy the spreadsheed- data... Opinions?

Khaibit 14:40, 9 November 2006 (EST)


Numenor

As for the translation, this can be manually done, by creating "mirror-pages" (for instance: ...\TXMT will be ...\TXMT-de) and then translating each page (and editing all the links embedded in it). It seems a huge work, also because "someone" :) should keep track of the changes in each English page and edit the German pages accordingly. The same apply to the HTML version: per se, it's a good idea, but it will never be as updated as the actual wiki pages, unless that "someone" continuously verifies the wiki pages and edit the HTML version accordingly.

PS: we should also check if *this* wiki can contain non-English pages. I don't know.

Numenor 08:50, 15 November 2006 (EST)

Yes, it can contain non-English pages. I can setup seperate namespaces or a subdomain similar to Wikipedia (ie the en.wikipedia, de.wikipedia etc). Delphy 09:15, 15 November 2006 (EST)

Khaibit

Cool! So the language support can be solved within the Wiki (hehehe) and we can have a French and German translation - someone else interested? Spanish or whatever else? (@ Numenor: it's just easier to follow the content when you don't have to translate it at once but you immediately understand the words and meaning - and that's why even an Italian translation for SimPe was written ;) :P )

Mirror-pages are great and definately easier than updating a whole html-folder - though as soon as the site exists it's just a case of copy&paste. I don't know yet if I'll start it for myself but in this case I can offer the html version which I'll update with copy&paste whenever it's required... maybe I'll upload it to www.simforum.de *muahahahar* (serious: a thread which informs tutorial-searching ones at MTS2 might be helpful for them to find the TXMT stuff in here and of course it would make sense if Numenor is the one who starts this thread (your name is a kind of 'quality-sign' =) )

Khaibit 11:31, 15 November 2006 (EST)


As the template news wasn't working can someone delete the page, please? [this page] Thanks! Khaibit 10:29, 29 December 2006 (EST)

Whats wrong with the template? Do you need some help? What are you trying to do with it? Delphy 12:04, 29 December 2006 (EST)

I wanted to create it in a way that it displays the summary/ conclusion on that certain page AND additional the "news" (do you know a better fitting word?) should be automatically displayed on this page, too as this is the main-overview. So it should be easier to see for the team where a discussion came to a result or an "important" idea was added. Especially when we have more pages working on it would be easier to keep the overview than having to check every page for "news" and if *you* can add your 2 cents. I tried to create a helper pinboard that connects automatically all the single pinboards of every page in here together. Ehm, understandable? I thought it would be easier than reading the discussions on every page so the resumee diplayed on top of the sites and on this site would be helpful especially when the number of pages increses. Patul and me struggled with explaing and code so can you help, please? :) Khaibit 12:35, 29 December 2006 (EST)

Use a template that includes another template that has the news on it, would be the easiest way of doing this Delphy 13:41, 29 December 2006 (EST)

Now that you say it: sounds logical! :D Cool, so it can work. Next problem: I tried to understand the meta-wiki template creation stuff and failed (I know there ia a logic inside but it's hidden in confusing programming terms - sounds all greek to me except the part about displaying chess positions which is very helpful to this template :D) so could you create a working template that listes the entries with :* please? Maybe this will be easier to understand how it works... a dumb feeling Khaibit 14:17, 29 December 2006 (EST)

Don't bother with the MediaWiki ones - copy the existing templates we have here. (Check in Special:Specialpages for the Templates, or something like Template:Infobox Person. I can help you on MSN or something if need be. :) Delphy 14:22, 29 December 2006 (EST)

OK, trying... in doubt I try contacting you about Y! messenger or a PM or else... thanks! =) Khaibit 14:51, 29 December 2006 (EST)

I guess we need to start to get this front page started, shan't we?

Note points for txmt/MATD 1. a file type to store mostly graphical parameters and their values, especially those predefined in the material shaders. 2. Certain parameters and their corresponding values from material shaders are usable for txmt files as well.

Dniol 16:08, 5 January 2007 (EST)

[edit] Note about links

Hi niol

Just to note that if you remove the www.sims2wiki.info from your wiki'd links (ie the ones in [[) then they'll show as normal links, and not hyperlinks. Anything on the Wiki can be linked to just via, for example, TXMT

I'll try that out. :) thanks...

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