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Some things you can do in the game can lead to the neighborhood corruption and have never been fixed. They should be avoided at all costs.
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Some things you can do in the game can lead to the neighborhood corruption and have never been fixed. They should be avoided.
  
 
==Symptoms of neighborhood corruption:==
 
==Symptoms of neighborhood corruption:==
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* Memories being lost or totally random.
 
* Memories being lost or totally random.
 
* Disappearing sims.
 
* Disappearing sims.
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* Disappearing lots.
 
* Sims losing family members in family tree.
 
* Sims losing family members in family tree.
 
* Sims becoming unplayable.
 
* Sims becoming unplayable.
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'''DO NOT...'''
 
'''DO NOT...'''
  
*Delete Sims from the Family Bin.
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*Delete sims from the Family Bin.
Here is the correct way to delete a Sim from a neighborhood:
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::Here is the correct way to delete a Sim from a neighborhood:
http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,6205.0.html
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::http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,6205.0.html
*Delete character files (in your Sims 2 folder in your Documents).
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*Delete character files (from Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2 <X>\Neighborhoods\<Hood>\Characters folder).
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*Delete lot files (from Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2 <X>\Neighborhoods\<Hood>\Lots folder).
 
*Use the DeleteAllCharacters cheat.
 
*Use the DeleteAllCharacters cheat.
 
*Interact with Mrs. Crumplebottom, the Charlatan, the Grim Reaper, etc. in any way other than their intended in game purpose. These characters do not have playable data.
 
*Interact with Mrs. Crumplebottom, the Charlatan, the Grim Reaper, etc. in any way other than their intended in game purpose. These characters do not have playable data.
Here is a thread which discusses this issue further:
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::Here is a thread which discusses this issue further:
http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=349317
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::http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=349317
*Save with Sims on the telephone (under the circumstances of installing hacks or installing a new EP/SP which will cause a game reset).
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*Save with Sims on the telephone.  This will cause problems when the game is reset, for example when installing hacks or a new EP/SP.
 
*Allow a Sim to die with tombstones or urns in their inventory.
 
*Allow a Sim to die with tombstones or urns in their inventory.
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*Put tombstones or urns on any of the shelves which come with Open for Business and are used to sell things.
 
*Move an inhabited lot (lot with family) or an owned lot (owned business) to the Lot Bin.
 
*Move an inhabited lot (lot with family) or an owned lot (owned business) to the Lot Bin.
 
*Install an occupied lot (lot with family). This includes packaged lots that you downloaded which have families included, unless you are absolutely sure that they have been properly cleaned. Occupied lots which ship with the game are safe.
 
*Install an occupied lot (lot with family). This includes packaged lots that you downloaded which have families included, unless you are absolutely sure that they have been properly cleaned. Occupied lots which ship with the game are safe.
Here is the correct way to move a Sim:
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::Here is the correct way to move a Sim:
http://simswiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Moving_Sims
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::http://simswiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Moving_Sims
 
*Bin lots that have graves.
 
*Bin lots that have graves.
 
*Delete lots that have graves.
 
*Delete lots that have graves.
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*Delete custom or geneticized/townified skins or eyes; this can cause a corrupted skin tone for Sims using them.
 
*Delete custom or geneticized/townified skins or eyes; this can cause a corrupted skin tone for Sims using them.
Unless you are willing to fix their DNA using SimPe.
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::Unless you are willing to fix their DNA using SimPe.
 
*Delete custom foods: breaks want trees for Sims that had it as a favorite food.
 
*Delete custom foods: breaks want trees for Sims that had it as a favorite food.
Unless you install Pescado's<sup>1</sup> Lotdebugger
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::Unless you install Pescado's<sup>1</sup> Lot Debugger and are willing to reset all Sims that had a custom food set as their favorite, and are willing to remove all memories about the custom food using SimPE.
and are willing to reset all Sims that had a custom food set as their favorite,
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and are willing to remove all memories about the custom food using SimPE.
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*Let Samantha Ottomas’ pregnancy come to term.
 
*Let Samantha Ottomas’ pregnancy come to term.
Unless you fully patched your Seasons game
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::Unless you fully patched your Seasons game prior to creating the neighborhood using the Seasons EP, or prior to porting your existing neighborhood to the Seasons EP.
prior to creating the neighborhood using the Seasons EP,
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or prior to porting your existing neighborhood to the Seasons EP.
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*Delete tombstones/urns.
 
*Delete tombstones/urns.
Unless you have Pescado's<sup>1</sup> nounlinkondelete hack installed.
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::Unless you have Pescado's<sup>1</sup> noUnlinkOnDelete hack installed.
 
*Resurrect dead pre-made Sims that shipped with the game; most of them have missing data (Skip Broke, Darleen Dreamer ect).
 
*Resurrect dead pre-made Sims that shipped with the game; most of them have missing data (Skip Broke, Darleen Dreamer ect).
Unless you fully read and follow the proper instructions in the following guide:
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::Unless you fully read and follow the proper instructions in the following guide:
http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:Resurrecting_tips
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::http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:Resurrecting_tips
  
  
You should also be aware that the neighborhoods which are shipped with the game have some problems. Strangetown is particularly problematic. You can solve some of these problems by installing clean templates, such as these clean and fixed templates from Tarlia:
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'''Other'''
http://meetme2theriver.livejournal.com/63030.html
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You may also want to install empty templates for the stealth sub-neighborhoods, to avoid unnecessary townies and Family Bin sims:
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*You should also be aware that the neighborhoods which are shipped with the game have some problems. Strangetown is particularly problematic. You can solve some of these problems by installing clean templates, such as these clean and fixed templates from Tarlia:
http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,13382.0.html
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:http://meetme2theriver.livejournal.com/63030.html
  
The discussion thread for this article can be found here:
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*You may also want to install empty templates for the stealth sub-neighborhoods, to avoid unnecessary townies and Family Bin sims:
http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=394352
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:http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,13382.0.html
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*The discussion thread for this article can be found here:
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:http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=394352
  
  
 
<sup>1</sup> Pescado's hacks can be found at MATY in the hacks directory under your most current EP: http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/samples/ts2/
 
<sup>1</sup> Pescado's hacks can be found at MATY in the hacks directory under your most current EP: http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/samples/ts2/

Revision as of 16:04, 5 February 2013

Some things you can do in the game can lead to the neighborhood corruption and have never been fixed. They should be avoided.

Symptoms of neighborhood corruption:

This is not a complete list of symptoms. Some of these can be symptoms of other types of problems as well, such as bad custom content.

  • Children and toddlers with LTWs (long-term wants) other than Grow Up.
  • Wants that don't fit the age group (for example, a toddler who suddenly wants to go on a date).
  • Memories and thought bubbles which contain squiggly lines.
  • Memories being lost or totally random.
  • Disappearing sims.
  • Disappearing lots.
  • Sims losing family members in family tree.
  • Sims becoming unplayable.
  • Lots becoming unplayable.

To avoid neighborhood corruption

DO NOT...

  • Delete sims from the Family Bin.
Here is the correct way to delete a Sim from a neighborhood:
http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,6205.0.html
  • Delete character files (from Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2 <X>\Neighborhoods\<Hood>\Characters folder).
  • Delete lot files (from Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2 <X>\Neighborhoods\<Hood>\Lots folder).
  • Use the DeleteAllCharacters cheat.
  • Interact with Mrs. Crumplebottom, the Charlatan, the Grim Reaper, etc. in any way other than their intended in game purpose. These characters do not have playable data.
Here is a thread which discusses this issue further:
http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=349317
  • Save with Sims on the telephone. This will cause problems when the game is reset, for example when installing hacks or a new EP/SP.
  • Allow a Sim to die with tombstones or urns in their inventory.
  • Put tombstones or urns on any of the shelves which come with Open for Business and are used to sell things.
  • Move an inhabited lot (lot with family) or an owned lot (owned business) to the Lot Bin.
  • Install an occupied lot (lot with family). This includes packaged lots that you downloaded which have families included, unless you are absolutely sure that they have been properly cleaned. Occupied lots which ship with the game are safe.
Here is the correct way to move a Sim:
http://simswiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Moving_Sims
  • Bin lots that have graves.
  • Delete lots that have graves.
  • Delete owned lots (business lots) or residential lots with home business before shutting down the business.
  • Bin empty lots that have been lived in without getting rid of the off-world loiterers. [Pescado's Lot Debugger has an option to do this but it will only appear when off-world loiterers are present]
  • Rezone a lot with active Sims living or staying on it.
  • Remove custom careers/majors while a Sim is using them.


Things not to do unless you are willing to fix them using various tools/hacks.

  • Delete custom or geneticized/townified skins or eyes; this can cause a corrupted skin tone for Sims using them.
Unless you are willing to fix their DNA using SimPe.
  • Delete custom foods: breaks want trees for Sims that had it as a favorite food.
Unless you install Pescado's1 Lot Debugger and are willing to reset all Sims that had a custom food set as their favorite, and are willing to remove all memories about the custom food using SimPE.
  • Let Samantha Ottomas’ pregnancy come to term.
Unless you fully patched your Seasons game prior to creating the neighborhood using the Seasons EP, or prior to porting your existing neighborhood to the Seasons EP.
  • Delete tombstones/urns.
Unless you have Pescado's1 noUnlinkOnDelete hack installed.
  • Resurrect dead pre-made Sims that shipped with the game; most of them have missing data (Skip Broke, Darleen Dreamer ect).
Unless you fully read and follow the proper instructions in the following guide:
http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial:Resurrecting_tips


Other

  • You should also be aware that the neighborhoods which are shipped with the game have some problems. Strangetown is particularly problematic. You can solve some of these problems by installing clean templates, such as these clean and fixed templates from Tarlia:
http://meetme2theriver.livejournal.com/63030.html
  • You may also want to install empty templates for the stealth sub-neighborhoods, to avoid unnecessary townies and Family Bin sims:
http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,13382.0.html
  • The discussion thread for this article can be found here:
http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=394352


1 Pescado's hacks can be found at MATY in the hacks directory under your most current EP: http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/samples/ts2/

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